Comments on: Court Case Involving Big Trout Lake is over for now http://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/ For the People, the Land and the Truth Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: anonymoushttp://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2404 anonymous Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:08:18 +0000 http://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/#comment-2404 IMHO, paying billions to indigenous people and preventing corporate access to reserve land would not resolve this complex issue. IMHO, paying billions to indigenous people and preventing corporate access to reserve land would not resolve this complex issue.

]]> By: Ahnihttp://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2402 Ahni Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:56:46 +0000 http://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/#comment-2402 anonymous, reservations are not self-sustained because they have been submerged into the "National" economic framework which imposes that dependency.Secondly, the so-called generous givings of Canada do not fulfill the needs of those on reserve. Never have. The reason is because the majority goes to administration and government employees (inac, the band councils, etc), then comes infrastructure (2 million dollar schools for example).Now, do you know how many are still suffering from <a href="http://intercontinentalcry.org/stop-exporting-asbestos-a-plea-to-canadians/" rel="nofollow">asbestos</a> and black mould (inac-funded housing)? And do you know how many reserves still don't have roads and sewers? And water? How many children can't have baths because the water hurts their skin? And how many are dying of <a href="http://intercontinentalcry.org/the-toxic-effect-on-indigenous-living-in-chemical-valley/" rel="nofollow">cancer</a> and other diseases, and how many are suffering from autism and other neurological disorders because THEY LIVE NEAR A MINE OR <a href="http://intercontinentalcry.org/tar-sands-and-canadas-violation-of-indigenous-people/ rel="nofollow">OIL</a> PROJECT?And what about all the companies who are illegally taking the resources, like weyerhauser - who cuts the trees at <a href="http://freegrassy.org/" rel="nofollow">grassy narrows</a>, giving nothing to the People? The company's probably made billions... and what? somehow their contribution to the GNP, which then trickles some pennies to a reserve is an equal trade off?Meanwhile, the government owes indigenous people BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars, but they refuse to pay that --- because, well, Canada desperately wants to get rid of the reservation system and make indigenous people full-fledged Canadians. If they "gave" them all that money though, the people could then invest in themselves, develop their own projects, even create their own economy. Canada can't be having that now can they?No, they need us to continue acting as if we're wards, prostitutes, really -- who have to make sure big daddy Canada stays happy. Otherwise, he can't feed us leftovers.Though you may be unaware of it anonymous, that's what you're saying too. anonymous, reservations are not self-sustained because they have been submerged into the “National” economic framework which imposes that dependency.

Secondly, the so-called generous givings of Canada do not fulfill the needs of those on reserve. Never have. The reason is because the majority goes to administration and government employees (inac, the band councils, etc), then comes infrastructure (2 million dollar schools for example).

Now, do you know how many are still suffering from asbestos and black mould (inac-funded housing)? And do you know how many reserves still don’t have roads and sewers? And water? How many children can’t have baths because the water hurts their skin? And how many are dying of cancer and other diseases, and how many are suffering from autism and other neurological disorders because THEY LIVE NEAR A MINE OR OIL PROJECT?

And what about all the companies who are illegally taking the resources, like weyerhauser – who cuts the trees at grassy narrows, giving nothing to the People? The company’s probably made billions… and what? somehow their contribution to the GNP, which then trickles some pennies to a reserve is an equal trade off?

Meanwhile, the government owes indigenous people BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars, but they refuse to pay that — because, well, Canada desperately wants to get rid of the reservation system and make indigenous people full-fledged Canadians. If they “gave” them all that money though, the people could then invest in themselves, develop their own projects, even create their own economy. Canada can’t be having that now can they?

No, they need us to continue acting as if we’re wards, prostitutes, really — who have to make sure big daddy Canada stays happy. Otherwise, he can’t feed us leftovers.

Though you may be unaware of it anonymous, that’s what you’re saying too.

]]> By: anonymoushttp://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2401 anonymous Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:46:25 +0000 http://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/#comment-2401 Reservations are not self sustained communities. Government funding is essential for their sustainability. If natural resources are not utilized as a contributor towards the Gross National Product the economic system will suffer and potentially result less funding for reservations. Reservations are not self sustained communities. Government funding is essential for their sustainability. If natural resources are not utilized as a contributor towards the Gross National Product the economic system will suffer and potentially result less funding for reservations.

]]> By: Merce Romanechttp://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2369 Merce Romanec Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:02:14 +0000 http://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/#comment-2369 I worked in the mining industry for four years and I know that it is a destructive endeavor, leaving huge environmental problems for generations afterwards so I sympathize with the people of Big Trout Lake to this extent.  But diamond drilling has been going on around this community since the eighties.  Drilling for exploration purposes is minimally invasive and leaves no environmental problems.  My suggestion is this then: make a deal with Platinex to employ Big Trout lake people, take advantage of this company's largess, and then protest heartily when Platinex decides to mine the property.  You are far more likely to invoke public sympathy successfully for resisting a mine than for drilling operations.  No one wants a defunct mine, with mine acid leaching problems.  I worked in the mining industry for four years and I know that it is a destructive endeavor, leaving huge environmental problems for generations afterwards so I sympathize with the people of Big Trout Lake to this extent.  But diamond drilling has been going on around this community since the eighties.  Drilling for exploration purposes is minimally invasive and leaves no environmental problems.  My suggestion is this then: make a deal with Platinex to employ Big Trout lake people, take advantage of this company’s largess, and then protest heartily when Platinex decides to mine the property.  You are far more likely to invoke public sympathy successfully for resisting a mine than for drilling operations.  No one wants a defunct mine, with mine acid leaching problems. 

]]> By: Daffhttp://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2310 Daff Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:35:47 +0000 http://intercontinentalcry.org/court-case-involving-big-trout-lake-is-over-for-now/#comment-2310 I think national/international companies and individual persons not from the first nations communities shouldn't be able to stake mining or otherwise claims within first nations reserve lands.   In this day and age hasn't enough being learned about how first nations feel about our land? I want to see some support from other first nations shown to these leaders who are in jail for trying to protect thier lands from a company that tried to evict this tribe from thier own lands, so they can rape the land of its resources. I think national/international companies and individual persons not from the first nations communities shouldn’t be able to stake mining or otherwise claims within first nations reserve lands.   In this day and age hasn’t enough being learned about how first nations feel about our land? I want to see some support from other first nations shown to these leaders who are in jail for trying to protect thier lands from a company that tried to evict this tribe from thier own lands, so they can rape the land of its resources.

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